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    Download 25 vocal remover images videoGod's redemptive work, in the Church as the community of faith, and in that community as it tells the story of God's redemptive work.
    Download 25 vocal remover images videoTHEN we are saying that the Spirit reveals God through many means and the Bible is only one of those means.
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    Download 25 vocal remover images videoIt is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail.
    But name calling, casting aspersions, and generally telling everyone here that they are wrong at every turn is not a helpful way to continue the conversation.
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    Scot, Having just read this blog this evening I find yoiur thoughts helpful.
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    You worship a god through them.
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    Download 25 vocal remover images videoBut it does allow for different shades of meaning, of expression; it allows for each person to be entirely who they were created to be.
    Reformation (and the first printing presses) and is still fought over today.
    But we need to define what we mean by authority.
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    Person of the (Trinitarian) God, to one another and to all creation.
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    The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
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    To truly know that, we must be in a relationship with them.
    Download 25 vocal remover images videoDo you think that authority is in any way an appropriate (albeit limited and incomplete) way of describing part of the function of scripture within our lives?
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    What AA leaders are bringing to our movement is a deeper sense of the work of the Spirit.
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    Spirit outside of scripture.
    AND how many means would that be?
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    Download 25 vocal remover images videoAuthority is not jettisoned (as you say) but this is about identity in the sense of acknowledgement and participation.
    Christians will say to one another, and this is but one example.
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    PS: Shawn, if you read my post, my comment was not to be unfair to you.
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    Their views are as close to canonical as can be.
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    So when I read the Bible I read something a little different than what everyone else reads.
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    Throughout the epistles Paul weaves a description of how we are to reconcile differences between believers and it always involves face to face discussion between respondents.
    Download 25 vocal remover images videoThose who have the expectation that we would come to the Bible and each read the exact same thing and hear the words in the exact same manner have an unreasonable expectation.
    Download 25 vocal remover images videoThis does not mean that we are wandering down paths of apostasy.
    Granted this is about the words Jesus spoke to the disciples, but we have many of those words in scripture.
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    God to us (since Jesus would only be known through the Scripture containing His life and words) since a spirit would only communicate to us through words (the invisible speech when read and interpreted by the Church to the congregation).
    Bible will be viewed by some as abandoning the assured results of right wing evangelicalism.
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    He reveals God to us.
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